Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Kerio, hamlet in Brittany.

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The result was keep Personally, I think this should be deleted, but that is not my job as closing admin.---Balloonman ^{NO! I'm Spartacus!} 03:44, 13 June 2010 (UTC)

Kerio, hamlet in Brittany.

Kerio, hamlet in Brittany. (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View log • AfD statistics)

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Does not meet the GNG requirements. Searching for Google News shows nothing for this (tiny) location. It is likely that the only site of interest is the website the creator originally included (http://www.holidaycottageinkerio.web.officelive.com). Possible mention in Ploërdut but not an article in its own right. PROD was removed so raising to AfD as recommended. Fæ (talk) 15:14, 30 May 2010 (UTC)

• Note: This debate has been included in the list of France-related deletion discussions. -- Fæ (talk) 15:14, 30 May 2010 (UTC)
• Keep All places (no matter how small) are notable. Article needs tagging for cleanup. Lugnuts (talk) 16:48, 30 May 2010 (UTC)
  • I agree with your principle, however don't the normal rules for merging and splitting content apply? The nomination suggests a mention in a larger region as a possibility. Fæ (talk) 17:40, 30 May 2010 (UTC)
• Keep For settlements, we apply the principle by having a separate article in all cases. It could conceivably have been decided differently, but this is the simplest way, and it's good to be consistent. DGG ( talk ) 09:00, 31 May 2010 (UTC)
  • Cool, happy for speedy keep based on this pre-existing consensus. Fæ (talk) 09:29, 31 May 2010 (UTC)
• Keep - Settlements are inherently notable. Sources are likely to exist in French and might not be easy to come by on the net.--Oakshade (talk) 21:37, 31 May 2010 (UTC)
• Keep. Needs to be retitled to Kerio, Morbihan but settlement are inherently notable. Mjroots2 (talk) 06:25, 2 June 2010 (UTC)

Maybe; maybe not. I can't even be sure of the spelling of the place's name. In an 1870 dictionary of place names in Morbihan, it's listed with the spelling Kerrio and not with the spelling Kerio. On the Google Maps and Michelin maps of the area, the name of the road that leads to the (unnamed on the maps) group of buildings is given as "Kerrio"; and in the Google hits that unambiguously refer to the relevant location, "Kerio" and "Kerrio" appear about equally. In any event, there seems to be (or to have been) at least 22 places in Morbihan named Kerio or Kerrio, so some better disambiguation would appear to be needed—perhaps "Kerrio [or Kerio], Ploërdut". (On the main question of this AfD, I'm ambivalent: The article was certainly created as an advertisement for a rental cottage, and I can't find any current information that clearly refers to either Kerio or Kerrio as the name of a hamlet at this location, as opposed to the name of a road or of the cottage. The French WP appears to be innocent of any mention of the place [and also of articles about any of the places so named]. Before I'd recommend keeping the article, I'd need to to see at least one unambiguous source verifying Ker[r]io's existence as a recognized populated place.) Deor (talk) 15:47, 2 June 2010 (UTC)

• Delete - Kerrio appears to be the name of the road, according to this website Mjroots (talk) 05:54, 4 June 2010 (UTC)

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Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so consensus may be reached.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Arbitrarily0 ^(talk) 23:04, 6 June 2010 (UTC)

• Comment Places are, in fact, inherently notable but without any references this is simply an unsubstantiated stub and just as legitimate of a delete as any other unverified article. A reference must be found. Also, this article quite obviously needs to be renamed. Preferably something along the lines of "Hamlet, Province", "Hamlet, France" or even "Hamlet (France)". TomPointTwo (talk) 23:35, 6 June 2010 (UTC)
• Keep [1] and [2] look like RS enough to me. Regards, Comte0 (talk) 23:07, 7 June 2010 (UTC)
• Keep - by past consensus and past outcomes here, all but the smallest settlements are notable. I have my standards for hamlets at an essay here for some further comments on the topic. Bearian (talk) 14:11, 8 June 2010 (UTC)
  • Thanks, interesting essay but but may not apply as Kerio appears to fail the part about "is in an English-speaking country". Fæ (talk) 14:16, 8 June 2010 (UTC)
    • From what I can get out of the two links, Kerio is an estate or farm near Ploerdut. Bearian (talk) 20:38, 8 June 2010 (UTC)

Small hamlets may be notable per WP:OUTCOMES#Places, but I don't think individual farms are. I had a feeling that this would turn out to be a named farmstead. So far, we have Kerio, Kério, and Kerrio as the possible name of this place; anyone want to try to a fourth version? Deor (talk) 21:14, 8 June 2010 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.